tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7125418539113091547.post680745823564098566..comments2024-03-26T09:26:02.816+00:00Comments on Llanblogger - contact llanblogger@gmail.com: Sainsbury's pulls out of Llan store developmentllanbloggerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13127644053530550156noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7125418539113091547.post-50473204384584140992015-05-26T23:19:49.705+01:002015-05-26T23:19:49.705+01:00To answer your question directly: the developer is...To answer your question directly: the developer is being allowed to carry on because there is planning permission for the structure to be built.<br />However, if it is not going to be a supermarket, then what will occupy such a big space?<br />With Clwyd South AM Ken Skates saying, “it will be completed and it will be occupied", you can see the situation immediately getting worse. Denbighshire gave consent for the project, anticipating substantial council tax, and nothing has changed on that front. If anything, whoever applies for change of use is probably going to get it, because the politicians need their faces saved and their revenues upped. If you thought a supermarket was bad, you may be horrified by what actually appears next year. Oh, Messers Skates and Davies, be careful what you wish for ...<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7125418539113091547.post-4735071524431652512015-05-23T08:32:25.965+01:002015-05-23T08:32:25.965+01:00If this supermarket building is going to be so dif...If this supermarket building is going to be so difficult to let, why is the developer being allowed to carry on? Surely it would be better for another type of development - housing, car parking, small business units etc to be put in its place. The only winners in this sorry mess will be J Ross Developments, who must be laughing all the way to the bank!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7125418539113091547.post-49738215642059859092015-05-22T22:00:16.066+01:002015-05-22T22:00:16.066+01:00There's little chance of Aldi or Lidl taking o...There's little chance of Aldi or Lidl taking over the site. Their target developments are between 8,000 and 19,000 sq. ft. The ex-Sainsbury's development is 34,000 sq ft. This in the first place was an absurd size to try to find a supermarket occupant for, given such a small local population. There were insider Llangollen mutterers from Day1 who said it would never happen and they were right. There needs to be an open investigation into the way everyone, from Messers Skates and Davies downwards, was conned into allowing Dobson & Crowther to build on a greenfield site, when there was never any real intention of having a viable development on their old site. <br />What we are all forgetting in this exercise is how much Stan's have done for the town, bringing a serious competitor to the Co-Op, as well as re-opening a much needed petrol station. The last thing we want is yet another supermarket to threaten Stan's.<br />The old printworks site will probably end up as a used car lot (that's what it looks like at the moment) or a warehouse of some sort or other. Hardly any extra jobs, yet another eyesore from the surrounding hillside and a monument to our local councillors folly and shortsightedness.<br />The whole town needs to learn a lesson from this debacle and never let it happen again.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7125418539113091547.post-1639587128278681922015-05-22T13:25:42.421+01:002015-05-22T13:25:42.421+01:00No good will come of allowing an Aldi or Lidl to o...No good will come of allowing an Aldi or Lidl to occupy the site as local shops will not be able to compete and will probably close. We need a high quality store such as Waitrose, Marks and Spencer food or something completely different, which will bring in high spending customers to the town and with which local shops can compete. Sainsbury's should not be allowed to call the shots after the way they have behaved over the past few months. DCC should take control and seek a suitable business or businesses to take over the site. Local businesses and residents have been treated very badly by all concerned in this fiasco and heads should roll. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7125418539113091547.post-70813238776575288582015-05-21T22:52:15.736+01:002015-05-21T22:52:15.736+01:00Aldi and Lidl are the only two supermarket chains ...Aldi and Lidl are the only two supermarket chains opening new stores, so that is why Messers Skates and Davies are championing them now. The real problem is retail demographics. Supermarket shopping is in a nationwide decline. Tesco's in Cefn Mawr is already a disappointment in terms of turnover. Llangollen has a population of 3,000 with only another 3,500 within a 3 mile radius. Whoever decided that such a small population could support a 34,000 sq ft supermarket has had the necessary reality check and has thrown in the towel. I also find the claim that the project would have brought "much needed" jobs offensive. There is minimal unemployment in Llangollen. What the supermarket would have brought was much needed additional council tax to compensate for Dobson & Crowther's now smaller footprint, but what we're left with is one modern eyesore in Cilmedw and a white (literally) elephant by the riverside. The greed and short-termism of both town and county councils has dug us this hole, but it's going to take an outsider to get them out of it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7125418539113091547.post-58410654586809128622015-05-21T19:43:23.713+01:002015-05-21T19:43:23.713+01:00Well, another fine mess Denbighshire has got us in...Well, another fine mess Denbighshire has got us into! If we have to have a supermarket, why aim for the lowest level? Aldi or Lidl would spell disaster for local businesses, why not a Waitrose? Llangollen is a town that thrives on quality. Why not a completely different development? Something with a touch of class and imagination to benefit future generations? Time for Llangollen people to challenge Councils and big business and create something to be proud of! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com